2 comments on “Bryant, Spinoza, Negri: The Foundations of Materialist Thought

  1. some great excerpts but i have to think that negri has a very specific meaning of materialism that is quite at odds from that of the ‘new materialisms’ of today (eg, “The passage from nature to second nature, from physics to human action, must be mediated by subjectivity”). in particular, throughout SA, negri argues that we construct the world, it is our imagination, our productive force as humans that is materialist – again leading him to reject the “first foundation,” the first 2 books of the ethics, which contain s’ most materialist theses.

    anyway, just curious for your thoughts, as i find negri’s view wholly humanist and seemingly at odds with a lot of other stuff you’ve been posting – so maybe you have a different reading.

    • Of course… we could probably find contrary thought in almost all of the supposed new materialisms as well… for me at least, I am not locked solid into the new materialists camp as of yet; that is why I qualify my exploration of these shadow worlds of new materialism. In some ways the new materialism all seem to derive much of their stance within the Deleuzian world… but, for me Deleuze cannot be pegged down to any one materialist mold, he was all over the board in his approach to the past philosophers… I like that… why should be reduce materialism to a set of notions, ideas, concepts, etc. To me the important thing is that it is open to growth and becoming, to change… Yes, we will, if we look hard enough, find older humanist elements in most of these philosophers. Why? Well, think about it, even Foucault, Barthes, Derrida who were all in their ways anti-humanists still had aspects of the anthropomorphic thought in their discourses… I truly believe that we cannot just jump out and away from the older humanist tradition as if it never existed, instead we have to interrogate it; discover in its discursive practices what is worth saving, and what isn’t. I think people are all to quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater…. we need to be more circumspect in our appraisal of these older modes of thought.

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