11 comments on “Slavoj Zizek: Why a return to Plato?

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  2. I find it hard anyone could assert that “art is not just a heightened procedure for producing sensual pleasure but a medium of Truth; and so on.” without sensing deep down that it is patent nonsense. The more forcefully it is stated, the more glaring its vacuousness. Why not bite the bullet and face that, yes, there are only bodies and languages and nothing more. That we are only human animals and domestication is our best bet. Rules for the animal zoo, as Sloterdijk would have it.

    • Also, an obvious lacuna in Badiou’s index of anti-platonisms, is full-blown, no-holds-barred nihilism. The type that agrees that if nothing matters, then that doesn’t matter either. That doesn’t try to wrest any further consequences from the truth of nihilism, as Heidegger does.

      • Obviously your nitpicking… I don’t think that was Badiou’s point to perform a full geneology of all pertinent references to anti-Platonism.

        And, I must admit, I’m not defending Badiou. Of late I’m studying Badiou, Zizek, Deleuze, Land, Bataille, Nietzsche, Hegel, Schelling, Kant, Spinoza and their myriad of epigones… seeking between the non-dialectical and dialectical traditions in materialism the common threads of a new materialsm.

    • Remember this was the Idealist gesture… And, of course, for Badiou Truth is defined in his first manifesto as:

      “A truth is this minimal consistency (a part, an immanence without concept) which indicates in the situation the inconsistency that makes its being … Since the groundless ground of what is presented is inconsistency, a truth will be that which, from within the presented and as a part of the presented, brings forth the inconsistency upon which, ultimately, the consistency of presentation depends.” (90)

    • As Zizek remarks, for Badiou a Truth-Event is not only the “revenge” of the inconsistency upon a consistent situation; fidelity to a Truth-Event is a work of imposing a new order onto the multiplicity of Being, for Truth is a “project” which is enforced upon the unnamable of a situation. In a way, Truth is itself even more forcefully imposing than a World: there is no pre-established harmony between Being and Event, for the enforcing of a Truth onto the multiple reality in no way “expresses” the “inner truth” of reality itself.

      Zizek, Slavoj (2012-04-30). Less Than Nothing: Hegel and the Shadow of Dialectical Materialism

  3. Ah, discovered Zizek’s commentary on Badiou’s use of Art as Truth-Event:

    “For example, a work of art is a Truth-Event when it cannot be dissolved further into its positive (social, politico-ideological, aesthetic) historical conditions, when there is more in its pure appearing than in the complex conditions that sustain it, so that we can only admire its appearance as such.”

    Zizek, Slavoj (2012-04-30). Less Than Nothing: Hegel and the Shadow of Dialectical Materialism (Kindle Locations 18219-18221). Norton. Kindle Edition.

  4. That’s the problem I have with Badiou and Zizek in general, the near-divine power they accord to the Subject. How hard is it to naturalise love, art, science and (revolutionary) politics? Not at all, even Badiou would acknowledge that, but he would play the trump card of the Subject. It’s almost like an appeal to divine revelation, which is, as a matter of definition personal. What are we left with then to arbitrate between the naturalist perspective and the subjective perspective? Force, I’m afraid.

    Think of Badiou’s view of Laruelle, which boils down to, yes, philosopy always relies on a decision, but that’s the strength of philosophy. Does that mean that philosophers are better persons than non-philosophers? Are non-philosophers sub-subjective, only animals? I see an ominous parallel with the Valladolid-debate.

    On a sidenote, I know you’re not defending Badiou, that’s why I’m attacking him, not you. I appreciate your posts a lot.

    • No problem… :) In fact, been in the midst of reading Laurelle’s Anti-Badiou a little each week as well… I do think that Section 12 of Zizek’s Less than Nothing is one of the better critiques of Badiou’s work of late… Of course the notion of the ‘subject’ in both Badiou and Zizek is quite different… for Badiou the Subject is not the natural individuated subject of the natural animal/human, but is more of a project something in which the natural human becomes a part of something greater in entering into the Truth-event etc. For Zizek it more of the self-reflecting nothingness, the gap, the intersection between drive and the Real; or, the fluctuating void that brings about the material, etc.

      What I’m seeing in all these philosophers/anti-philosophers/non-philosophers is the emergence of something new out of and against the German Idealist or Continental traditions…. plus the incorporation of the latest aspects of cognitive-science and physics. How it will play out is still to be decided… so far we have yet to see a new Kant for our age to systematically synthesize this break with that tradition in a definitive manner. It’s as if what is going on is a prelude, a prototyping effort toward some future post-metaphysical philosophy that might bring all those threads together.

  5. Bringing those threads together in novel ways is what it’s all about. I mean, how extraordinary to put together Plato and philosophical naturalism for example; or to yield the best of Hegel within a fully materialist yet speculative metaphysics while drawing on someone like Brandom or Sellars, or Peirce and Deleuze. Plato and Hegel are the next stopping points for contemporary metaphysics no doubt – and I agree that we haven’t seen the last of someone like Kant, either. The mistake is hero worship of course – but I don’t think that is what is going on here. For example, look at what someone like Grant has done with Plato and Schelling (a physics of the Idea; who would have thought!) So much to do with Hegel yet, and the “return” to German idealism is just the beginning…

    It’s what you *do* with these folks that makes the bang. A “speculative alchemy.”

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